My internet radio show was yesterday, and all modesty aside (my Guru says to be strictly honest, rather than "modest"), I nailed it. Part of that was due to having done a little preparation, by way of pulling out some crucial dates and quotes; part of it was, perhaps, Abby's nudging at crucial points. A great deal of it, however, was probably due to writing these blog entries. Even if I only have a present-day audience of two or three, I explore all the avenues and ramifications here; so that when I get into an interview situation, I've already given some thought to most of the questions that the interviewer brings up.
The interviewer was excellent, and this is also a key element for a good interview. I've had some in which I could hardly get into anything substantial, because the interviewer's questions were superficial. Or, the interviewer had a one-track mind, and wouldn't let something go, so that I couldn't branch out. This one asked deep questions--in fact, precisely the questions I needed asked. In something like 50 minutes, by talking fast and thinking faster, I was able to cover just about all the points I would have wished to.
I'll announce it when it's online, which should be by tomorrow (it's a weekly show).* I note that among the "favorite shows" displayed at the top, the first is Dr. Bruce Lipton, who was interviewed in May of this year. You may recall that I attempted to contact Dr. Lipton recently, and was told by his staff person that he was too busy. I don't supposed he goes back to the home page for this station. But I am "chasing him" on the "circuit," and who knows, someday I may catch up to him!
I would say that if I were ever to be discovered, this interview would be the one that could do it. So I have done my part--let's see what Fate, and those who are able to tweak Fate, can do.
Oh, last night I listened to a more recent radio interview with Graham Hancock. I was totally on-board with him, and deeply impressed, until he got to his use of psychedelics, and enthusiastic advocacy thereof. The interviewer tried to inject a note of sanity into the discussion, and got shot down for his trouble. I thought to myself, if I ever should end up "on the circuit," and should fall into discussion with Dr. Hancock, what would I say? The only thing I can say is what my Guru, Meher Baba, said on the subject. He said that drugs are "harmful physically, mentally and spiritually," and that "if God could be found in a pill, God would not be worthy of being God." I remember being an enthusiastic advocate, too, when I believed that the drug high was the same as mystical experience. Do you know when I realized it probably wasn't? As a young man, I went to a reading of "A Christmas Carol," stoned, to see whether the marijuana high was the same as the Christmas spirit. It wasn't--the experiment failed--and I began to see what a vast difference there was. That was the beginning of the end of my drug use, as a young man of 19 or so. I had no idea that in my past life, I had actually co-authored that work; but you can see in what esteem I held it at that early period.
Incidentally, I used LSD, too, and concluded, while under its influence, that it is a "fancy intoxicant." I have had genuine spiritual experiences, and I have had psychedelic experiences, and there is no comparison. It is something like not having the necessary discernment to realize that Charles Dickens couldn't possibly have written the "Carol." Only those with a lack of discernment could possibly think that; and similarly, only those with a lack of discernment could ever confuse psychedelic experience with genuine spiritual experience. Hancock says that all ancient cultures used psychedelics for religious purposes. But that's not accurate, strictly-speaking. The truth is that there have been spiritually immature elements in all ancient societies which used them; but at the same time, there have also always been more spiritually mature elements which eschewed them. There are countless sadhus in India, for example, who use drugs; but the most advanced spiritual figures in India neither need them, nor touch them.* So Hancock is out of his area of expertise on consciousness studies, relative to my background. One should always be careful about gaining expertise in one area, and using one's credentials to set oneself forth as an expert in a totally different area. (I am reminded of a bar owner who proudly displayed an acoustical guitar signed by tennis great John McEnroe.) If anybody asks me about ancient archeology, all I know is what I've seen on YouTube the last couple of years, plus the Ancient Aliens series before that. But I have studied Eastern mysticism and consciousness from the best sources for about 45 years, so I can speak with at least intellectual authority on that subject.
In fairness, Hancock might say that he, too, has studied consciousness for 45 years. But he has studied the wrong sources, or he would never make a lopsided, partial statement like he did, regarding ancient cultures and drugs.
This, by the way, points out one reason I'm not famous--because I refuse to go along with people so as to be invited into any "Mutual Admiration Society." Many years ago I came to a similar parting of the ways with Prof. Chris Bache of Youngstown University, who was intending to introduce me to his colleagues at Noetic Sciences, until I disagreed with him on this same issue. It simply means that my sources are too advanced for them (not me, but my sources), and I'm not willing to tone it down so as to be acceptable to them.
Stephen Sakellarios, M.S.
*As of 12/31, another interview has just been posted. It appears they have a backlog, so at this point I have no way of knowing when mine may be available.
**None of the spiritual figures whom I have studied and admire, including Meher Baba, Sri Ramakrishna, Swami Vivekananda, and Ramana Maharshi, used drugs. Yogi Baba Hari Dass, at a retreat I attended in 1974, told me to stop using them (I had done so, a few months earlier, but was complaining to him about lingering effects), and said that in (ancient?) India, hemp grew outside the yogis' caves, but they didn't touch it. On the other hand, to be fair, he said he had just missed meeting Timothy Leary on a bus (as I recall), and seemed disappointed not to have connected with him. He said that LSD was "the avatar of the West," and then looked around as if to see who understood his meaning; looking at me, I sensed that he knew I understood him. He meant that in such a deeply materialistic society, we are side-tracked into embracing the avataric principle as a physical drug. It was sarcasm of a sort, in other words, a wry comment. He also told a teaching story about a sadhu high on hemp, whom he observed bowing to a urinal. Meher Baba told a story about observing such a user when he was a boy. The man exclaimed that he was in heaven, but then, making a giant leap to cross a little puddle of water, broke his leg, and now cried out that he was in hell!
Music opening this page, "All About You," by Eric Johnson,
from the album, "Venus Isle"